Playlist | Proto-Punk πŸ§·


Inspired by the comments on a reddit post, I wanted to dig into some pre-“punk” proto-punk. I set Gemini, ChatGPT, Perplexity, & Copilot to the task as I’m fascinated by their ability to parse & compile information if prompted accurately. (I’m also fascinated my their penchant to provide completely incorrect or even made-up information. Some time I will have to blog about my experiment in having them search restaurant menus in an area to see if they serve shellfish. Copilot recommended some seafood places, so clearly it wants to kill me.)

I added my own stuff that some of them disagreed with, but it is my list after all. 🀣 Going back to little Richard and including Black Sabbath’s “Paranoid” were points of contention, as I would expect from a conversation with people.

Music snobs aficionados, audiophiles, and punk rock gatekeepers will argue all day every day about the origin of punk… but for me, to be clear, it’s the moment that the Ramones’ self-titled album dropped. So, with that in mind I gave the language models this prompt:

There is and always will be constant debate, but if we agree for the premise of this exercise that the Ramones self-titled debut album was the first punk album… What are 25 songs that should belong on a proto-punk or punk precursor playlist?

I would assume bands that get mentioned as the progenitors would most likely include The Kinks, the Sonics, Link Wray, The Stooges, the MC5, the Velvet Underground, New York Dolls, & more I’m sure to be missing. Maybe even the band Death who hailed from Detroit MI?

All songs on the list should have been released before April 23, 1976… and be listed in order if release date by single or album, whichever dropped first.

This has been corrected for my typically egregious spelling/typing/lack-of-proofreading errors. After tossing the rules to the wind, keeping to the spirit of punk rock, we arrived here:

  • “Little Demon” – Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (1956)
  • “Tutti Frutti” – Little Richard (1955)
  • “Whole Lotta Shakin’ Goin’ On” – Jerry Lee Lewis (1957)
  • “Rumble” – Link Wray (1958)
  • “La Bamba” – Ritchie Valens (1958)
  • “Love Me” – The Phantom (1958)
  • “Louie Louie” – The Kingsmen (1963)
  • “Surfin’ Bird” – The Trashmen (1963)
  • “Baby Let Me Take You Home” – The Animals (1964)
  • “House of the Rising Sun” – The Animals (1964)
  • “I’m Crying” – The Animals (1964)
  • “You Really Got Me” – The Kinks (1964)
  • “Gloria” – Them (1964)
  • “I Can’t Explain” – The Who (1964)
  • “Dirty Water” – The Standells (1966)
  • “My Generation” – The Who (1965)
  • “Strychnine” – The Sonics (1965)
  • “I’m a Man” – The Yardbirds (1965)
  • “We Gotta Get Out of This Place” – The Animals (1965)
  • “96 Tears” – ? & The Mysterians (1966)
  • “Wild Thing” – The Troggs (1966)
  • “Complication” – The Monks (1966)
  • “Psychotic Reaction” – Count Five (1966)
  • “Pushin’ Too Hard” – The Seeds (1966)
  • “7 and 7 Is” – Love (1966)
  • “I’m Not Like Everybody Else” – The Kinks (1966)
  • “You’re Gonna Miss Me” – The 13th Floor Elevators (1966)
  • “Talk Talk” – The Music Machine (1966)
  • “I’m Waiting for the Man” – The Velvet Underground (1967)
  • “Doctor Please” – Blue Cheer (1968)
  • “Sister Ray” – The Velvet Underground (1968)
  • “Fire” – The Crazy World of Arthur Brown (1968)
  • “Jigsaw Puzzle” – The Rolling Stones (1968)
  • “Kick Out the Jams” – MC5 (1969)
  • “I Wanna Be Your Dog” – The Stooges (1969)
  • “Little Doll” – The Stooges (1969)
  • “TV Eye” – The Stooges (1970)
  • “Paranoid” – Black Sabbath (1970)
  • “Get It On” – T. Rex (1971)
  • “School’s Out” – Alice Cooper (1972)
  • “Suffragette City” – David Bowie (1972)
  • “Raw Power” – Iggy & The Stooges (1973)
  • “Search and Destroy” – The Stooges (1973)
  • “Personality Crisis” – New York Dolls (1973)
  • “Jet Boy” – New York Dolls (1973)
  • “Urban Guerrilla” – Hawkwind (1973)
  • “Violence” – Mott the Hoople (1973)
  • “Cum On Feel the Noize” – Slade (1973)
  • “Editions of You” – Roxy Music (1973)
  • “Ooh La La” – Faces (1973)
  • “Subway Train” – New York Dolls (1974)
  • “Hey Joe” – Patti Smith Group (1975)
  • “Piss Factory” – Patti Smith (1975)
  • “Roxette” – Dr. Feelgood (1976)
  • “The Next Big Thing” – The Dictators (1975)
  • “Chez Maximes” – The Hollywood Brats (1976)
  • “After Eight” – Neu! (1975)
  • “Ghost Rider” – Suicide (1977)
  • “Little Johnny Jewel” – Television (1975)
  • “30 Seconds Over Tokyo” – Pere Ubu (1975)
  • “Burn My Eye” – Radio Birdman (1976)
  • “Politicians in My Eyes” – Death (1976)
  • “Cherry Bomb” – The Runaways (1976)
  • “Roadrunner” – The Modern Lovers (1976)
  • “She Cracked” – The Modern Lovers (1976)
  • “Shake Some Action” – Flamin’ Groovies (1976)
  • “Blank Generation” – Richard Hell & the Voidoids (1977)
  • “Anarchy in the U.K.” – The Sex Pistols (1976)
  • “Sonic Reducer” – Dead Boys (1977)
  • “Neat Neat Neat” – The Damned (1977)
  • “Chinese Rocks” – Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers (1977)
  • “Psycho Killer” – Talking Heads (1977)

I used Tune My Music to import it to Spotify from a text file, then copy to Amazon Music from there. I tried to go to Amazon first, but it messed up quite a bit of the songs. I did have to add “7 and 7 Is” by Love manually as it shows as “Seven and Seven Is” on Spotify. It weirdly plopped a Bob Marley song in that spot. Amazon was full of weird covers and the wrong songs when trying to import from text.

So, what do you think of the list? What’s missing? What needs added? Are my parameters skewed? Do you not accept anything past the date of what parameters were set? What obscure band that 14 people heard at the time is missing from this list? Don’t come at me with the Sex Pistols over the Ramones. Should we whittle it back to 25? Only have 1 song per artist? Come at me with healthy discourse.

Rock N’ Roll Movies πŸŽ¬


I like rock n’ roll movies. I’ve seen a bunch. I still need to see a lot of them, or it’s been too long to remember what I thought of them.

What are your favorites? Mine are noted below: β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜… is good β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†β˜† is bad. I just threw them in a table, then sorted by rating then title.

Please don’t say Rock of Ages. I have no interest in musicals. 🀣

I used AI to partially successfully create a table with as-of-now correct IMDB & RT ratings. I’ll copy & paste it below, & link to my spreadsheet.

AiXeLsyD13’s Rock N’ Roll Movie List!
Movie:My Rating:IMDB:RT πŸ…:RT 🍿:Category:
A Mighty Windβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.287%82%Comedy
Airheadsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.222%57%Comedy
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventureβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.081%75%Comedy
Boom: A Film About the Sonicsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…8.9n/an/aDocumentary
Empire Musicβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.831%84%Comedy
Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Sagaβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.563%81%Comedy
Fat Kid Rules the Worldβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.484%61%Drama
Heavier Tripβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.091%n/aComedy
Heavy Tripβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.094%85%Comedy
Honeysuckle Roseβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.360%74%Drama
Josie and the Pussycatsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…5.653%53%Comedy
Lemmy: 49% Motherf**ker, 51% Son of a Bitchβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.789%88%Documentary
Mad Tigerβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.767%57%Documentary
Mission to Larsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…6.781%70%Documentary
Pick It Up!: Ska in the ’90sβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…8.0n/an/aDocumentary
Rayβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.780%87%Biopic
School of Rockβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.292%64%Comedy
The Other F Wordβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.278%82%Documentary
The Punk Syndromeβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.894%87%Documentary
This Is Spinal Tapβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.995%82%Comedy
Turn It Around: The Story of East Bay Punkβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.882%93%Documentary
Walk the Lineβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…7.882%90%Biopic
Willie Nelson & Family (series)β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…8.386%100%Documentary
8 Mileβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.275%54%Drama
Anvil: The Story of Anvilβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.998%89%Documentary
Beware Mr. Bakerβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.698%81%Documentary
Bill & Ted Face the Musicβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†6.082%65%Comedy
Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journeyβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†6.356%56%Comedy
End of the Century: The Story of the Ramonesβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†8.190%91%Documentary
It Might Get Loudβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.680%84%Documentary
Muscle Shoalsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.797%90%Documentary
Ordinary Worldβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†5.553%46%Drama
Searching for Sugar Manβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†8.295%92%Documentary
Sound Cityβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.8100%90%Documentary
Straight Outta Comptonβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.889%91%Biopic
The Blues Brothersβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.973%87%Comedy
Wayne’s Worldβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†7.079%84%Comedy
Whiskey on a Sundayβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†8.9n/an/aDocumentary
A Complete Unknownβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†7.4n/an/aBiopic
Almost Famousβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†7.989%92%Drama
Metal Lordsβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.762%84%Comedy
Metallica: Through The Neverβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†7.182%74%Drama
Onceβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†7.897%91%Drama
Rock ‘n’ Roll High Schoolβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.781%70%Comedy
Rockstarβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.352%57%Drama
Some Kind of Monsterβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†7.589%86%Documentary
Studio 666β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†5.756%80%Horror/Comedy
That Thing You Do!β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.993%82%Comedy
The Rockerβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.241%57%Comedy
The Runawaysβ˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.570%66%Biopic
Wayne’s World 2β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†6.260%61%Comedy
CBGBβ˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†6.67%39%Biopic
Hired Gunβ˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†7.240%72%Documentary
Rock ‘n’ Roll High School Foreverβ˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†4.6n/a55%Comedy
SLC Punkβ˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†7.463%89%Drama
The Dirtβ˜…β˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†7.039%94%Biopic
Hysteria: The Def Leppard Storyβ˜…β˜†β˜†β˜†β˜†6.6n/a57%Biopic
Becoming Led Zeppelinn/an/an/an/aDocumentary
Bohemian Rhapsodyn/a7.960%85%Biopic
Cadillac Recordsn/a7.066%68%Biopic
Elvisn/a7.377%94%Biopic
Gutterdammerungn/a7.6n/an/aWeird
Heavy Metal Parking Lotn/a7.583%78%Documentary
High Fidelityn/a7.591%90%Drama
Jimi: All Is By My Siden/a5.768%41%Biopic
Junen/a7.5100%83%Documentary
Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Parkn/a4.8n/a60%Action
La Bamban/a6.991%78%Biopic
Metal: A Headbanger’s Journeyn/a8.090%91%Documentary
Punk’s Deadn/a4.6n/a36%Drama
Punks Not Deadn/a7.090%76%Documentary
Rocketmann/a7.389%88%Biopic
Sid & Nancyn/a7.088%84%Biopic
Sound of Metaln/a7.797%90%Drama
The Buddy Holly Storyn/a7.1100%82%Biopic
The Decline of Western Civilizationn/a7.5100%83%Documentary
The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Yearsn/a7.276%76%Documentary
The Decline of Western Civilization Part IIIn/a7.2100%80%Documentary
The Doorsn/a7.258%83%Biopic

As I have finished up, damnit I forgot Filmage, Tenacious D’s Pick of Destiny (& the TV show), Crossroads, Purple Rain, Frank, CB4, Big Money Hustlas, Salad Days, Pump Up The Volume, We Are Lady Parts, Popstar, Beavis & Butt-head, Breakin’, Pirate Radio, & more. I’m gonna have to do a part 2. Or maybe this is part 2 or 3 already? I blogged about rock movies back in 2012 a bit, & about rock docs.

What should go on a 30 song punk rock playlist?


So, I recently got my 9yo a guitar for his birthday. We’re belaying lessons until after his current soccer and lacrosse seasons, but I will be showing him a bit. He seems to like all kinds of rock, but I was telling him how easy it is to play most punk rock. He has heard a lot of Ramones, Misfits, etc. from me… But I got the idea of putting together a punk rock playlist for him.

Well, I tend to over-do things. I started a playlist on Amazon (yeah, already have a ton of Amazon stuff and I refuse to pay for Spotify) called Punk Rock 101. It grew quickly to over 300 songs, and that was without thinking much about it. I thought that was unwieldy, and no 9yo is going to sit still even that long.

I thought it would be fun to challenge myself to come up with a 30 song punk rock playlist… that jumps subgenres and provides a CliffsNotes version of the history of punk rock.

I made up an apparently divisive graphic of only 25 punk rock band logos. Apparently this was a bad list and not at all comprehensive… even though it was not even a playlist. Punk rockers on the internet have strong opinions. I reached out on a few social media platforms and groups, mostly to no avail, save for one private FB group and r/punk on Reddit. I was told my list was junk before I even made a list! Are these hipsters masquerading as punks?

There are not many rules.

  • 1 playlist.
  • 30 songs.
  • Punk rock.

It can be a comprehensive history of punk, it can lean into one era. What would the 30 “greatest hits” of punk rock be? Does any band get more than one slot? Which songs from which bands merit entry? I kind of started with “Blitzkrieg Bop”, “Knowledge”, & “Last Caress” because I feel like those are the most covered punk rock songs that I noticed throughout the years playing shows. Do you include crust, street, oi, hardcore, proto-punk, post-punk, emo, 3rd wave ska, japunk, skate punk, pop punk, “pop punkβ„’”, Celtic, folk punk, rockabilly/pshychobilly, cowpunk, or bands like Devo and/or the Cure? Do the Decendents and ALL or Operation Ivy and Rancid both make the cut? You may hate Blink 182 or Green Day, but they inarguably introduced many to the genre. Do the Beastie Boys make the cut with their OLD stuff? Do MotΓΆrhead or GWAR make the cut? What about Me First and the Gimme Gimmes?

Hit me up with your list and/or arguments for or against certain songs or bands here in the comments or on social media. Just try not to slag my list that I haven’t even created yet. Type it out or link me to your list. Is the list too short? Too long? Let me know.

Honestly, check the Reddit thread too, lots of people put in some killer playlists & even linked some!

Once I whittle it down, I’ll come back & post it. I’ll try to put it up on Amazon Music, Spotify, & YouTube.

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If you had to make a #punkrock playlist to explain the sound of #punk from the beginning to now, but had to cap it at 30 songs… what would you put on it? Who am I missing here? What songs would you put on it? #Punk101 #PunkHistory #PunkTop30

♬ Blitzkrieg Bop (2016 Remaster) – Ramones

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The Best Rock ‘n’ Roll Movies


I like movies, and I like rock ‘n’ roll.Β  You probably already knew (or assumed) that.Β  These are some of my favorite music-related films.Β  What are yours?

AirheadsAirheads – Such a great goofy film.Β  I feel that this one is underrated… maybe it has a “cult” sort of following.Β  The plot is ridiculous and it’s filled with all kinds of great actors.Β  It’s got some of the best quotes ever, and is why I will someday demand a football helmet filled with cottage cheese and naked pictures of Bea Arthur if ever given the chance to make crazy demands.Β  I could probably watch this movie over & over as much as I could watch the Star Wars films over & over.

The cover for Shark Sandwich, one of the band'...This is Spinal Tap – This is a no-brainer.Β  It goes to 11.Β  It’s the standard to which all other rock ‘n’ roll films are measured.Β  It has sustain.Β  Just let the DVD or Blu-ray or VHS tape or Laser Disc sit on the shelf and listen to it.

Music from the Motion Picture Josie and the Pu...Josie and the Pussycats – Laugh all you want, but this movie is super fun.Β  If you can’t enjoy this one, you have no soul.Β  I had no attachment to the cartoon in case there are purists out there that didn’t like it because fans of original things rarely like those things rehashed.Β  Orange is the new pink.Β  “3 Small Words” is a great pop song.

Empire RecordsEmpire Records – It’s not really aboutΒ  band or musicians… but the chaos all over the store is all about rock ‘n’ roll, and it’s filled with great tracks from GWAR, AC/DC, Sponge, not quite Body Count’s “Hey Joe“, Coyote Shivers, and Rex Manning.Β  Ha ha.

Lemmy (film)Lemmy: 49% Motherf**ker, 51% Son Of A BitchΒ – If you haven’t seen this & you’re even a casual fan of metal, punk, rock docs in general, or even just heard “Ace of Spades” once, you need to see this.Β  That was a really long grammatically terrible sentence.Β  Lemmy would kick my ass for pointing that out.Β  Maybe not.Β  He seems like a really likeable dude to hang out with if you can get past the stink of cigarettes.

It Might Get LoudIt Might Get Loud – Not a huge fan of any of these dudes… except Jimmy Page is… well, Jimmy Page.Β  Led Zeppelin is amazing, I’m just not one of those dudes that has all the albums or knows all the riffs.Β  U2 actually kind or irks me, but the Edge seems like a cool dude & an effect wiz.Β  Jack White surprised me, but he’s kind of creepy.Β  Beyond all that, I still enjoyed this movie.Β  Guys talking about their love of music, the guitar, & playing… it’s incredible.

Walk the Line (soundtrack)Walk the Line – Probably one of the best biopics ever, if not the best.Β  Johnny Cash was a great man, and an asshole.Β  It’s all out there.Β  It’s a compelling story spanning many decades, and really a love story with Jone & Johnny.Β  The man in black went through a lot in life.

Ray (film)Ray – Ray & Johnny Cash had eerie similar back stories.Β  Jamie Foxx is a genius in this film.Β  It’s one hell of a great story.Β  Ray did it all, from R&B to pop to country.

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (soundtrack)Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story – This is hilarious. Watch Walk the Line & Ray first though.Β  Then laugh hard. (β™« Haaaaard! β™«)

Wayne's World (soundtrack)Wayne’s World – You’re hearing Queen in your head right now, aren’t you?Β  Well, either that or the theme song.Β  Excellent!

Detroit Rock City (film)Detroit Rock City – I’m not the biggest KISS fan, but this road-trip gone awry is all kinds of fun.Β  I have had many less interesting adventures on the way to gigs… just attending or playing.Β  And, KISS does have some catchy songs… and a great stage show.

Role ModelsRole Models – OK, not a rock movie… but the KISS theme throughout is just hilarious.

CrossroadsCrossroads – The Karate Kid does a guitar duel with Steve Vai.Β  It’s sort of likeΒ  “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” as a movie from the 80s.Β  Instead of Arnold from Happy Days, you have a Blues player, and instead of Karate you have the blues.

8 Mile8 Mile – The concept is weird… a biopic that isn’t quite.Β  It’s a great move though.Β  The struggle to make it as a musician/rapper is very compelling, and Eminem’s a pretty damn good actor… playing himself…Β  sort of.

Anvil! The Story of AnvilAnvil: The Story of Anvil – This movie makes me want to laugh & cry.Β  I feel the pain that these cats are going through.Β  It makes you want to punch Metallica for Some Kind of Monster.Β  After it all it’s all about friendship & the love of music.Β  Who can’t get behind that?

OnceOnce – Not really a rock movie, but a cool story intertwined with music, performing, songwriting, and even a love/friendship thing.

The Pick of DestinyThe Pick of Destiny – You can maybe skip this one.Β  Get the Complete Masterworks instead.Β  It’s slightly funnier.Β  These dudes are awesome rock ‘n’ rollers who capture the essence of the spirit of rock!Β  And they battle demons…

Purple Rain (album)Purple Rain – Musicians, watch this and learn how to own the stage from Morris Day.Β  Oh yeah, Prince is pretty badass too.Β  This is a weird 80s film, but it’s one you need to see.

Honeysuckle RoseHoneysuckle Rose – Willie Nelson is awesome.Β  This movie is about a traveling band that looks a lot like Willie’s… with the lead singer who looks a lot like Willie Nelson robbing his ex guitar player’s cradle to the chagrin of his wife. This soundtrack is excellent if you’re a Willie Nelson fan… highlight being a cover of Leon Russell’s “A Song For You”.

Bill & Ted's Excellent AdventureBill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure & Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey – Well, the first one was cool.Β  I can’t wait for #3 if it ever happens!Β  Be excellent to each other.

Other cool movies where the music is integral… Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, The Rocker, The Last Dragon, SLC Punk, Some Kind of Monster, Bubba Ho-Tep, High Fidelity, Blues Brothers, Rock Star, The Runaways, and many more I’m sure.